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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:13 am Post subject:

...What makes it any different than before?

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Naardaas · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:12 am Post subject:

Right now I'm grasping at straws trying to figure out an effect that meshes with their motif. Couple that with trying to avoid any effect that is either too powerful or completely original, not exactly the easiest thing to do.
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Aarikku · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:26 am Post subject:

No one said it was easy.
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Naardaas · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject:

While we're redoing Wyvern, I'd like to know your opinions of the rest of Its Majesty's Army.
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Aarikku · Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject:

I thought they were ALL LV-esque.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject:

What? How were they LV-ish?
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Aarikku · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject:

I don't know, since I have no idea where the effects are, but I had thought each one turned into the next, eventually turning into Warlord Dragon. Would you post the effects?
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Naardaas · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject:

...You're going by those effects, not the ones I sent with the art.

(Level Two) Vanguard Dragon (DARK)
Category: Dragon
Effect: Tribute this card to play 1 [Warlord Dragon] from your hand. No other monster you control can attack this turn.
ATK/ 2300
DEF/ 1400

(Level Three) Brigadier Wyvern (DARK)
Category: Dragon
Effect: All Mana tapped for this card must be DARK or Dragon. During your End Phase, if you didn't declare an attack this turn, Tribute this card to play 1 [Warlord Dragon] from your Graveyard.
ATK/ 3400
DEF/ 2100

(Level One) Darkness Dragonling (DARK)
Category: Dragon
Effect: If this card is destroyed by battle, or sent to the Graveyard by an opponent's effect, add 1 [Warlord Dragon] from your deck or Graveyard to your hand.
ATK/ 800
DEF/ 500

There.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject:

Yes, I went with the effects that were posted when we were talking about the effects. In-freaking-credible.

Dragonling's fine. Vanguard is too. (Though both are pretty boring ripoffs of my Noble Dragon support) Wyvern's actually got an additional problem - it's a Level 3 monster with the second-highest ATK possible that, upon satisfying an incredibly easy condition, turns into the strongest Level 4. Needs more of a tune-up (or tune-down) than I thought.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject:

So far there are at least 2 other cards I know of that do what Vanguard does (Tsunami Child and Root of All Evil). As for dragonling, I needed something to get the deck moving - without it, Warlord would never get drawn - and this was the best way I saw to do that.

Aarikku · Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject:

Look. Post the most recent effects on the site, because when I get pictures, I just look at the pictures. What "rest of the card" are you talking about? I decided to focus on one problem at a time.
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Naardaas · Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject:

Its stats.

And I would've appreciated your thoughts on the Wyvern changes I proposed.
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Aarikku · Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject:

I'd start from scratch.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:06 am Post subject:

I've posted a new effect for the Wyvern on this page where the old one was.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:10 am Post subject:

It's an interesting idea, but at the end of the day it's still 3 Mana for the strongest Level 4 card in the game.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:17 am Post subject:

True, but at least it requires more legwork (specific Mana, killing Warlord in the first place).
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:18 am Post subject:

Oh, Graveyard. My bad. I could've sworn it said deck. I'd still rather do away with the Mana restriction and just make it weaker, but it's okay.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:32 am Post subject:

Glad to hear.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:33 am Post subject:

So, what's your pick? Mana restriction or lower ATK?
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:43 am Post subject:

Mana restriction, definitely. The card's new format is all about doing legwork to get a good payoff.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:44 am Post subject:

Ehhh... I'd rather do the ATK reduction.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:49 am Post subject:

Well, lesse... 3000 ATK fine?
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:50 am Post subject:

Perfect.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:54 am Post subject:

Then it's settled. The Military Dragon monster lineup is complete. (On another note, the Vanguard and Brigadier are not alternate forms of the Warlord, they're just his troops. Though you probably already guessed the latter.)
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:57 am Post subject:

Weren't they wearing skeletons? (I didn't really pay too much attention to the art, sorry) That seems to suggest they're related.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject:

Battle armour. Nothing more than that.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject:

Yeah, but it makes them almost exactly like miniature Warlord Dragons. Why not have it just armour?
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Naardaas · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject:

Simple; the [Charred skeleton of its formal rival] schtick. You've seen tribes that wear the bones/skins of animals they kill. Same concept.
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Aarikku · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:03 pm Post subject:

Okay, then why is it unique enough to be mentioned in Warlord Dragon's description?
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject:

That was before I created the other beasts. I never thought of a new flavour text. I am willing to change it though.

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