The Cards of Shmod: Apocalypse

Naardaas · The Cards of Shmod: Apocalypse

The new series will include new cards used by our characters. These are a few Examples.

Aarikku

Rip off Noble Dragon much?

Honestly, I'm not a fan of many of these. The Noble Dragon facsimiles are much worse; Vanguard can't summon Warlord on turn one, and Omega Dragon's way too weak. 5500 doesn't follow the Blue-eyes Ultimate Dragon rule, but this is a different game. Besides, Noble Dragon's supposed to be the only Level Three monster with 3500 ATK. Finally, rip-offs are just boring.

Brass and Steel - the extra MetaDragons - just plain shouldn't be made. MetaDragons themselves would've liked cards like them before, but when you've made a boss card that relies on having all of something, don't add more, or people will completely ignore the worse ones.

And Blitzkreig Dragon's LIGHT? And named after the Nazi tactic used to invade France in WWII?

Naardaas

Somehow I thought you would take this pecimistically.

The Vanguard Dragon may require an extra Mana or turn to work, but it has one advantage over Heir Dragonling - the ability to do some damage while it waits. 1700 ATK is 1000 higher than Dragonling, and while that only ties it with Banyo Dragon, that's still enough to keep it from being terrible.

You dislike the concept of Warlord Dragon because it infringes on Noble's title. Titles are relative, and cannot last forever. The sole reason you oppose my ideas like this is because we don't see eye to eye or think the game needs all the same things. If you truly hate it enough to avoid making it real than by all means boycott it, but you can't stop me from writing about it.

Remember, Titanium Dragon only requires 6 unique MetaDragons. The presence of more than 6 different dragons allows people to cut out the ones they dislike should they wish. It's their call - not ours, unless we build the deck. Besides, this solves the problem of MetaDragons not having any low-level high attackers.

Aarikku

Technically I could stop you from writing with these, but I'd rather convince you that THIS IS NOT YUGIOH.

I'm not giving Noble Dragon a title, I'm giving Level Three a cap. We've seen what happened in Yugioh when they had no idea how strong Four-star monsters were to go. "Ooh! Battle Ox has 1700 ATK! Ooh! Master Kyonshi has 1750! Right, La Jinn's been around forever! Mechanicalchaser! Gemini Elf! Gene-Warped Warwolf!"

Heir Dragonling isn't supposed to last a long time. The mini-Dragons are to summon the big ones quickly.

Again, this isn't about titles, but Marc will end up as an exact copy of Tyson. That's boring. Ridiculously boring.

The MetaDragons are your decktype, so I'm less concerned about them. But I don't see why you'd like having Mercury Dragon and Cobalt Wyvern completely obsolete, as the two worst MetaDragons.

Naardaas

My Plan isn't to go completely insane with powerful level threes, even if I'm already completely insane by myself. The reason I did this was a plan to have Warlord and Noble go head-to-head during my series, not to uproot your entire system for my own amusement. You don't want me to go any higher than 3500, so unless there's a typo in my post I haven't implied that here (if there is I'm sorry 'bout that)

I plan on creating these and rendering them lost because I realize now I was an idiot to create them. They represent the worst of my supported ideas in this game. Creating Lindworm and Lung won't fix that, but it will allieviate the problem.

Aarikku

But why is everyone using Dragons? It's just unoriginal to have such blatant copies of Noble Dragon.

You could make, say, a 3500-ATK Fusion monster made out of an Orc riding a rhinoceros. Not everything has to be a dragon.

Naardaas

An Orc riding a Rhinoceros?! I understand your point, but that sounds like a last-ditch effort to lighten the mood, and knowing you that's entirely possible.

Come to think of it, that type of menotinous theme may just work. Thanks; I've been walking around in a fog of writer's block for a couple weeks not.

Aarikku

I notice you edited Warlord Dragon.

...Did... did you kill off Noble Dragon? You're not allowed to do that.

On another note, I like the Fox Theme.

Naardaas

I did not kill off Noble Dragon my dear friend. The skeleton of its former rival refers to another dragon entirely.

Glad you like the foxes. You okay with Warlord Dragon and its clan now?

Aarikku

You might want to come up with another name for Omega Dragon - three Warlords combining to make a Greek letter?

Naardaas

Point taken.

Aarikku

One last thing - methinks 4500 would be a better ATK score for Warlord. It's a nicer number, and Level 4 monsters generally have like 3000 with a good effect to 4000 with a reasonable effect.

But with that, I think some changing of Vanguard is in order.

Naardaas

It is done. Anything else dude?

EDIT: You took Omega Dragon's name for your Three Sigma Fusion, Omega Ninth Dragon. What's up with that?

Aarikku

As I think we discussed, I had designed Omega Ninth Dragon long before you made these.

Naardaas

Yeah, I posted that before we had that discussion.

Aarikku

A couple questions about Marcel's cards:

Why are they all Nagas? A Naga was a very specific creature in mythology - a snake person.

In Manticore's text, what does "When you play this card, Scrap this card." mean? Does it mean that you have to discard another Chaos Manticore to play it?

Naardaas

Okay, I've changed several of the creatures to no longer include Naga. The rest all have serpent-like features.

And the Manticore has been altered to say Tribute.

Aarikku

Is it mandatory? 'Cuz it seems like there's no way to actually have Chaos Manticore on the field.

Naardaas

Yes, it is optional.

Aarikku

Naardaas - I said square pictures! Square!

Here's the best I could do with the rectangle Warlord Dragon:

Naardaas

Dude, chill!

The card's not that bad man.

Aarikku

That was more a 'mock anger'. It's not really that bad, but the detail of the tail is missing.

Naardaas

Mock anger? Dude, no offense, but you couldn't intimidate me if I was O.D.ing on my Psyche Meds.

Well, the tail isn't quintessential, but if you want I can revamp the original image. Believe me, skeleton-clad dragons are a pain in the [posterior].

Aarikku

Uh... mock anger means that I wasn't actually angry, not that I was trying to intimidate you. Learn yourself some words.

Yeah, I know skeletons are a pain to draw... believe me, I know.

Naardaas

I know what mock anger is Shape-Shifter. Everybody I know uses it to intimidate people.

And my line got censored by your swear filter. Leave it to you to install something seemingly designed to annoy the hell out of me. I wonder what it's done to the lines in my chapters.

Aarikku

It's taken out the language that's hardly suited for stories about card games. That's it.

Naardaas

Dude, you're no fun.

Aarikku · Re: The Cards of Shmod: Apocalypse

Naardaas

It's effect is in the Dawn of Armgeddon threat.

As for Buster Alchemy, I think I forgot a line or two. We can make it a cost 2 if you want, and it needs the line [Mana tapped for this card must be MetaDragon].

Aarikku

You really have to keep everything in one thread.

Naardaas

They're for different applications, though. It's only in 2 places because it's between incarnations. I delete them from here as they're created.

Naardaas

Oh, and just so you know, the Series will continue to use the original effects written above.

Aarikku

Makes sense.

Naardaas

The Fox cards:

(Level Three) Nine-Tailed Fox (Dark)
Category: Fox
Effect: Each time a creature is destroyed by battle while this card's in play, you can play a Fox-Tail Mana Token. This card gains 100 STK/GRD for every Fox-Tail Mana Token in play. If this card is removed from the field, remove any Tokens this card played from the field.
ATK/ 2700
DEF/ 2500

(Level One) Golden Fox (Light)
Category: Fox
Effect: Tribute this card to play two Fox-Tail Mana Tokens.
ATK/ 500
DEF/ 0

(Level Two) Arctic Fox (Water)
Category: Fox
Effect: When this card battles a creature and destroys it, Vanish that card and play a Fox-Tail Mana Token. If this card is removed from the field, remove any Tokens this card played from the field.
ATK/ 2100
DEF/ 1100

Fox-Tail Mana Token
This card counts as any Mana to play a Fox creature. You cannot tap this Token to play non-Fox monsters.

Aarikku

What rarities should the foxes be?

Naardaas

Honestly, I don't know. I'll say... Arctic and Blazing Common, Nine-Tails Uncommon, Flash and Golden Rare.

Aarikku

Okay, but weren't there only three Rares in your Apocalypse set?

Naardaas

Oh yeah. Make the Rares Uncommon them.

Aarikku

Okay. One more thing - does the second 'it' in Arctic Fox's text refer to itself, or the destroyed monster? 'Cuz if it creates an extra Mana Token every freaking turn, that's a lot of cheating the Mana system.

Actually, Nine-Tails cheats it a lot too.

*Looks at Golden Fox* Dang. That gives you a Level Two monster first turn, ya know.

Naardaas

Yeah, good point... But if it Vanishes itself you're screwed, and its STK is low for a Level Two.

Still, you're right. I'ma put a restriction on it.

Aarikku

2nd Untap Phase? So it destroys a monster during your Combat Step. Opponent makes their turn, you start yours, and it's still tapped. Then you finish your turn, opponent has theirs, and then it untaps? That might confuse some newbies.

Naardaas

It's the same effect on Diamond Falcon.

Aarikku

Is it? *Checks*

Ah. Yes. I may have gone overboard on lessening the abuse of Diamond Falcon. But that's only one card to keep track of - Arctic Fox could be making a crapload of tokens.

What if the Tokens disappear if Arctic Fox leaves the field, but they work like before?

Naardaas

Okay. I like that effect. Should I nerf Nine-Tails with that too?

Aarikku

Sure. Oh, and why does Arctic Fox vanish what it destroys? I don't have a problem with that, it just seems... odd. In Shmod, I don't think there's a single card that activates when it hits the Graveyard - just when it's destroyed or Scrapped or something.

Naardaas

I thought I'd put in an effect new to this game.

Aarikku

*Points at Black Hole Dragon*

But, whatever.

Naardaas

Right. Forgot about him.

Anyway, think you can put the cards together?

Aarikku

Workin' on it now. I'm done Flash, Arctic and Blazing. I'll upload 'em when I'm done them all.

Naardaas

Cool.

I'll try and get you at least two of Red Fox, Fox-Tail Eruption, Fox Blast or Fox Force tomorrow.

Aarikku

Am I missing any? Oh, and I just noticed - they're all facing the left.

Naardaas

Androgynous Voice: Yes! My archetype lives! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Aarikku

And you've created monsters that aren't dragons! They don't even resemble dragons! I'm so proud.

Naardaas

That makes me so happy, and yet so sad, to hear.

Oh, in addition to the afforementioned 4 cards, future cards include Fennec Fox and Fox Valley.

Aarikku

'kay. Oh, and feel free to make a Fox Speaker. It is an animal-based type, after all.

Level 2, 2300/2000, Humanoid, with a bunch of effects. And a staff resembling a key feature of foxes.

One other thing, you're on the right track of Level ratios. Don't mess it up.

Naardaas

I won't. Fennec Fox is Level One, none of my remaining Foxes exceed Level Two, I'm giving them a searcher (do you want it to be another statue?), and yeah, I'll give them a Speaker.

Anything else?

Aarikku

No reason for it to be a Statue. Check out Mechanical Snake. Though if you want, why not?

What else to recommend...? As always, watch the token producing. Easy Mana is a dangerous business. But it looks like you've got things under control.

Naardaas

Good news for you is, most of my remaining cards are about USING the Mana produced, not making more.

Oh, this is the effect for Fox Force. Tell me if it's too strong.

(Cost Two) Fox Force
Item Spell
Equip only to a Fox. It gains 200 STK for each of your Fox-Tail Mana Tokens (max. 1600). If the equipped monster is destroyed by battle, play a Fox with a lower Level from your Deck.

Aarikku

If you put a max on the ATK it can gain, say, 1600, it'll be fine.

Naardaas

Okay.

One more warning, about the speaker. With Foxes, I'm making it female... and I tend to make my females bustier than you do.

Aarikku

Uh oh. Just keep them smaller than the head.

Naardaas

I don't draw hentai-style girls. They will be smaller than the head. And pretty much fully-covered.

Aarikku

Okay, but I reserve the right to get my sister to see how degrading said picture is to her gender.

Naardaas

I'm not sexist, you do know that right? And this is a childern's card game. I do have morals and a conscience, although my friends may beg to differ; but I'm not in it to degrade people.

Aarikku

Then you shouldn't have to warn me.

Naardaas

I don't know that I had to; I'm just being precautious. I know how you are about stuff like this.

I'll keep my drawing PG. But still cool.

Aarikku

You do that.

Naardaas

And in the meanwhile, I'll continue to formulate Fox stuff.

Naardaas

Oh, one last thing. No matter how hard I try, I always default to a manga hairstyle. So don't be surprised if my speaker looks like she got her hair cut at Chez Yubel's.

Aarikku

Hm. You could always pull a 'Core Princess Andromeda' and have the hair wave behind her.

Ah well. Anime's okay in moderation.

Naardaas

Did you get Fox Blast okay?

Aarikku

Yep. But I'm gonna need a rarity for it.

Naardaas

Uncommon. The effect is too powerful for a Common, but the Rare slots are booked. And it's not Secret Rare good.

Oh, and I'm thinking the same for Fox Force.

Aarikku

Okay, but there's only 11 Uncommons in your set too - five of which are now Foxes. Maybe you should make it bigger.

...Aaand I don't have an effect for Fox Force. BTW, you can't keep making cards by using the word 'Fox' and then an attacking word. Alas, your creativity.

One last thing - Fox Blast is borderline broken. Or maybe it's just plain broken.

Naardaas

Here's the effect of it again. And I'll change the card tame.

(Cost Two) Tails of Fury
Item Spell
Equip only to a Fox. It gains 200 STK for each of your Fox-Tail Mana Tokens (max. 1600). If the equipped monster is destroyed by battle, play a Fox with a lower Level from your Deck.

And Blast, yeah. I didn't realize how powerful it was until I looked at it as it's written on a card.I'll make a new effect, and a new name.

(Cost Two) Furri-ous Explosion
Continuous Trap
Effect: When a Fox is attacked, you can tap 1 Fox-Tail Mana Token. In that case, at the end of the Battle Phase, destroy the monster that attacked.

Aarikku

'Kay.

Oh, THAT'S Fox Force. 'Kay, I'll work on it. (I'm also working on an Alternate art Noble Dragon so I can make a Tyson Character deck ^_^)

Naardaas

Well, now the two cards have new names.

Aarikku

Furri-ous Explosion looks fine, but you MAY get some unfortunate jokes about the word 'furry'.

Naardaas

That's the point of the name. It's a pormanteau and a play on words.

Aarikku

I said UNFORTUNATE jokes.

Naardaas

Meh, whatever.

Aarikku

Naardaas

Well, the archetype's not complete yet, but there are enough cards to create a Fox deck. I may just post one.

While we're here, what should Lyaerna - Lord of Serpents do?

Aarikku

I dunno. There's only, like... three other snakes in the game. And no special Snake archetype, so making it snake support is kinda out.

Well, it's your card, so it's up to you. Just don't make it ridiculous or dumb. Or ridiculously dumb.

Naardaas

I asked because I don't have a clue what I want from it. I said I wanted something Metagame worthy - kinda like what you described Lightning Dragon to be. Although a different effect.

Let's see. What effects are absent or short in Shmod?

Aarikku

Well, if you're looking for a unique effect, categorizing it is not a good idea.

Naardaas

No category is fine. A type would be useful; I'll say Earth. The highest decent, easy-to-play Level in Shmod is 3. If the effect is great, than the stats should be medium.

(Level Three) Lyaerna - Lord of Serpents (Earth)
Category: N/A
Effect: ???
STK/ 3000
GRD/ 3000

Aarikku

Snap. Your first Earth monster.

Despite being after making a whole series of foxes...

Naardaas

Yeah, yeah.

Anyway, my earlier question - what effects are absent from Shmod, or just uncommon in it?

Aarikku

As I said, if you're categorizing it, it's not unique.

Naardaas

Fine... what effects are MISSING from Shmod?

Aarikku

I dunno. Look, I'm busy. Have to draw Noble Dragon.

Naardaas

Okay. I'll let you know when I have something.

Naardaas

Well, I'm id a bind for what to do on the three Warlord Dragon support Dragons; Vaguard, Brigadier, and a new one known as Darkness Dragonling. Aarikku has seen my designs for them and (metaphorically) spat in their faces, so I need new ideas. Any amount of spitballing would be VERY helpful.

Aarikku

Naardaas

I'll admit that one of them was like a LV monster. Brigadier Wyvetn was. But Vanguard Dragon was the standard [Tribute to play [Insert Monster Name Here] from your hand], and Darkness Dragonling was a hand searcher. Neither of those is LV-ish.

And that's not what I asked. I asked for something you'd prefer. That isn't very helpful, since it gives me nothing to play off of.

Aarikku

They're your cards. You come up with ideas, I'll rate the ideas and make suggestions if I can.

Naardaas

I know, but I'm not exactly rolling on alternate ideas. I want something fresh for the Wyvern, something not currently (widely) used here that involves battle (keeping with the military ranking theme). And sadly, that was the only thing I could think of, since I thought it going off instantly was too easy.

Aarikku

Well, get back to me when you think of another idea.

Naardaas

How about:

(Level Three) Brigadier Wyven (DARK)
Category: Dragon
Effect: When this card destroys an opponent's monster by Battle, tribute this card to play 1 [Warlord Dragon] from your deck. It cannot attack this turn.
ATK/ 3400
DEF/ 2100

The Cards of Shmod: Apocalypse

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