Aarikku
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Status of the Next Chapter(s) - Now for Season IIKeep checking back here to see how I'm doing. I won't be posting any until Naardaas is done Shmod: Apocalypse. (Unless he takes too long)
Chapter One: Posted
Chapter Two: Posted
Chapter Three: Posted
Chapter Four: Posted
Chapter Five: Posted
Chapter Six: Posted
Chapter Seven: Posted
Chapter Eight: Posted
Chapter Nine: Posted
Chapter Ten: Posted
Chapter Eleven: Basic Plans
Finale (May be two chapters): Near-full Plans
And I have full plans for one very important game as well as basic plans for who battles who.
Note: I have begun posting chapters, but I can't promise any regular updates. So there might be a stretch of weeks without a chapter. Sorry.
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Naardaas
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Feel free to begin posting whenever; mine will be about 20 Chapters, and I'll probably take awhile to get it together. Not because of an idea deficit; it's weeding out the extra crap I didn't use.
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Aarikku
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I suppose. Wow; I haven't updated this in a while.
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Naardaas
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Glad to see you're gettin' involved in your old hobby here.
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Aarikku
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It's gonna take me a while to get fully organized. Chapter Three's going nowhere incredibly slowly.
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Naardaas
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There's a speed for going nowhere? Either I need to get out more, or you just don't make sense.
Anyway, if ya need any help, I think I can lend a hand.
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Aarikku
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I think I'll be okay. Worry about your own story.
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Naardaas
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If you say so.
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Naardaas
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Actually, Aarikku, go ahead and begin posting whenever. Apocalypse is going on a hiatus until I can get the entire thing straightened up (my cut ideas and selected ones are mixing, I'm deciding details out of order, and I can't decide what to do with The Reaper). I probably won't post for it again for awhile, so feel free to shine.
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Aarikku
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Well, that would make things easier to coincide with Heir to the Throne and stuff... I'll start when I've proofread the chapters I've written thus far. May be a few days to dot my t's and cross my i's and whatnot.
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Naardaas
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Somehow I think you just screwed your metaphor up, I'm just not sure how.
Hopefully by the time your series has finished I have mine at least close to that.
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Naardaas
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You ever thought of using a Break the Fourth Wall in your series?
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Aarikku
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Like how Luke remembers things from the other series? I use subtle fourth wall breakages.
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Naardaas
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Yeah, those are fun. I like them. But that is explainable canonically. I mean like a political reference or something. Like how I made Marc do a Bush impression.
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Aarikku
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He did?
Anywho, I'll think about it.
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Naardaas
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Yeah, he did. I referenced something he said about Al Gore after winning the 2000 election. He actually said, [Boy what a major-league asshole he is].
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Aarikku
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'Kay.
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Naardaas
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Yeah, I wouldn't expect you to know that. You're not into politics and political satire.
As for other elements in chapters, you did use Chains of Olympus, but ever thought of mentioning some epic card nobody'd heard of that has power beyond mortal comprehention?
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Aarikku
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Yes. Yes I have.
Also, I'ma rename Chains of Olympus. Turns out it's a God of War game.
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Naardaas
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How b'out Chains of Atlantis?
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Aarikku
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Meh. That'll work.
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Naardaas
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Anywho, are you still stuck at your plotlines, or did you bust down the wall?
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Aarikku
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I know exactly what'll happen, I'm just having trouble motivating myself to write. I find that working on the cards is much more satisfying. And choreographing card games suuuucks.
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Naardaas
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That's why I decided to use the supernatural; it's more interesting. You should try it; it's a whole new game, so to speak.
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Aarikku
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Yeah, but combining real villains with card games is what made Yugioh and GX so bloody stupid. There's absolutely no reason to involve card games with the fate of the world. Look at Yugioh: Duelist Kingdom. The plot was based around Pegasus trying to steal Yugi's necklace.
And they end up playing a CARD GAME. Win or lose, Pegasus is no closer nor any farther from just beating the crap out of Yugi and TAKING the necklace.
Likewise, your Marcel summoning a grim reaper from a trading card for the sole purpose of having said reaper play a card game against Marc. Why couldn't the reaper just chop off Marc's head?
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Naardaas
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If I explained why I did what I did, then I'd kill all my own fun.
And I didn't say real villains, I said the supernatural. Ouija boards, Poltergeists, you know, crap like that.
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Aarikku
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Again, what do they have to do with card games?
"Oh no! I summoned a ghost! Perhaps I can send it back to the afterlife by beating it at a card gaaame!"
Or.
"Oh no! A Ouija board says I'm going to die. ...In a card gaaame!"
Or.
"I'm playing a card game against someone using a deck using cards based on a Ouija board spelling out my doom! This is certainly an original idea."
And poltergeists?
"A ghost is throwing jars around my house! I challenge you to a card game!"
"...No." (Throws more jars)
"Crap."
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Naardaas
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See, this is why I suggested it. I love screwing with people.
And see, these ideas can work. When I'm uninspired, I write outtake chapters with old ideas I never used. You know, just for the hell of it. You should try it sometime. It's very theraputic.
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Aarikku
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Generally, if I never used an idea, there was a pretty good reason for it.
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Naardaas
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It's for comparisson mostly. I can't count on one hand how many times I cut something out, then when writing an outtakes I go "Crap. This coulda worked." With you it's probably different, but for you it could help with inspiration issues. Could being the key word. I'm not a psychologist after all.
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Aarikku
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Clearly.
I do keep notes of card ideas I never used.
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Naardaas
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Y'mean like Rain of Swords? 'Cause I'm thinking of working your old Shmods into my series. Anything you think I could make use of?
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Aarikku
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How did you hear about Rain of Swords?
And I dunno. My first deck was Elements (almost all of which have been made), and then I made a Cyber Dragon deck for fun.
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Naardaas
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The first time you and I met up after you left the Flea Market, I mentioned my idea for a Splice Mechanic, and you likened it to Rain of Swords.
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Aarikku
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I vaguely remember that.
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Naardaas
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Well, my memory's better than yours.
And you were wrong about that anyway.
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Aarikku
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That seemed uncalled for.
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Naardaas
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Oh. Sorry about that then.
Wait... Cyber Dragons? You have 10 seconds before I find that suspicious.
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Aarikku
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That's why they're not real cards. The deck was a Shmod incarnation of the Cyber Dragons.
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Naardaas
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Heh. Well, I think if I tweak them a bit I can make it work. Thanks Leric, you came through for me.
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Aarikku
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What? You're going to 'tweak' the Cyber Dragons? Bad move. Besides, I already kinda did that with Bionic Noble Dragon. I just started from a different angle.
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Naardaas
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Right. And I have the MetaDragons.
So, anyway, Rain of Swords, Element Stuff, Cyber Dragons. That can't have been all. Someone like you always has a ton of spare ideas.
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Naardaas
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So, how's the creative process coming along?
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Aarikku
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Not good. Chapter Five introduces a match that I hadn't planned yet, so I dunno whether to make it an only partially shown game and focus on something else or wing it.
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Naardaas
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Wing it. that's what I do in these situations. How good are you with improv?
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Aarikku
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I wasn't really asking for advice on that. Winging it doesn't seem like a good idea at all.
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Naardaas
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You won't know for certain unless you try. Scientists don't guess; they hypothecize, they experiment and use their results as proof.
Just give it a shot.
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Aarikku
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No. Writing and science aren't the same. If you keep making crap up when you're writing, you end up like Star Trek Voyager. Or worse, Andromeda.
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Naardaas
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I've never watched either of those.
And I don't mean permanently; just for a move or two until an idea begins to weave itself together.
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Aarikku
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Again, no.
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Naardaas
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Okay then. Have fun.
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Naardaas
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Your thing says Chapter 5 is done. Is it at the point where it's work posting? In your proofreading anyway.
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Aarikku
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I think so. I just didn't want to post it before I had done a good chunk of Chapter Six... but I guess it has been a while.
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Naardaas
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Well, it is your choice, your series.
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Naardaas
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How's Chapter Six coimg along? Or have you been unable to work on it lately?
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Aarikku
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Geez, I just made some cards! I can't do both at once.
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Naardaas
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I'm not demanding stuff or anything, I'm just asking questions.
Anyway, I'm still working on my series, along with JenovaAlchemist.
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Aarikku
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I thought you were gonna quit Apocalypse. Or start over or something.
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Naardaas
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I changed my mind. I can't abandon the series when I know exactly what I want to happen. Besides, I need that series to introduce cards for my pack. Like Brigadier Wyvern.
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Aarikku
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The second reason is a terrible reason. Seriously.
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Naardaas
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That maybe so, but a terrible reason is still a reason.
Hey, I just remembered you said awhile ago that if you made a third season you'd probably cut the old characters.
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Aarikku
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I did say that.
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Naardaas
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So... did you get tired of these characters, or are you just trying to go somewhere else with the series?
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Aarikku
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I'm officially starting to work on these again. The observant Shmodder will note that I took a two-month break.
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Naardaas
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Good luck.
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Aarikku
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Chapter Six is up. I had actually expected more... plot... to happen in it. Whatever; the story's movin'.
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Naardaas
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Glad to hear things are falling into place.
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Aarikku
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Chapter Seven's up. The plot is underway.
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Naardaas
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Your poster says Chapter Eight is done. That's quite fast, given you only just posted Chapter 7. Were you working on them both at the same time?
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Aarikku
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Huh. Didn't notice your reply.
That was one good day-or-two where I was just like "Okay, I know what I'm doing.", cracked my knuckles and wrote two chapters.
Nine, however, will take a while.
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Naardaas
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Huh. Cool.
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Naardaas
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What made you decide on a plot that involves placing a company's ownership as the motivation of a few duels?
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Aarikku
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Because putting lives on the line makes no sense.
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Naardaas
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I gotta give you some kudos man. I never expected you to do something like this; even if it is comedic, it's still a huge set of stakes. Great job.
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Aarikku
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Thanks. I'm happy with this too - it's unrealistic enough that it'll only happen in the stories, but not completely beyond the scope of imagination.
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Naardaas
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Yeah, they are great stakes.
But what I like more than that - Johnny. A figure out to best the main character. And actually doing so.
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Aarikku
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Aye, but IS Tyson the main character? Who has the most character development? Who beat the last villain?
*dun dun DUUUN*
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Naardaas
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I know; Kyle did. Kyle is the most revealed. BUT, Tyson was the first character introduced (if not by name), he was the character with the "epic" cards, and just beating the villain doesn't say much. Kyle still couldn't beat Tyson.
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Aarikku
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Tyson couldn't beat Kyle. And "epic cards"? Practically everyone has an 'epic card'. Remember that anything beyond Level 4 (and even some Level 4's) is legendary. Your points make no sense. "beating the villain doesn't say much". ???
Also, I wrote the story. I think I know who the main character is. Or, who the main characterS are.
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Naardaas
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Tyson couldn't beat Kyle because you tampered with the rules of Omega Ninth Dragon, probably just for that purpose. As for the villain, remember that Kevon nearly beat her as well, and honestly she was only good because of the broken cards you handed her.
And yeah, there are multiple main characters. But if Kyle is the titular one, then people would be going after him, not Tyson.
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Aarikku
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I never tampered with the rules of Omega Ninth Dragon. That's just how Omega Ninth Dragon worked. How can I tamper with MY OWN BLOODY RULES?
Your point about Zywen is awful. So Zywen's only good because of her broken cards, but Tyson having Omega Ninth Dragon is just pure skill, right?
There IS no 'titular' character because no one's named "Shmod Saga". And the only person 'hunting' Tyson is Johnny, but that doesn't even have anything to do with Tyson. It's because he's using Noble Dragon. If Johnny was using a deck based on the enemy of Wicked Frog, he'd be after Kevin. If Kyle had a Noble Dragon deck, Johnny would be after him. Understand?
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Naardaas
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Omega Ninth Dragon isn't broken because it's hard to play. And also, she isn't a very good player without them, whereas Tyson can beat players without his Dragon - Deity.
And last I checked, its effect attacks all opposing monsters, it doesn't attack you. It's possible you changed it, but I doubt you would have given it that effect to begin with.
For the last point, I uunderstand what you mean. But if Tyson's not that special then why did you choose Noble Dragon to have a rival card.
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Aarikku
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Huh, missed that post.
I believe your confusion stems from you not knowing what Kyle's all about. Kyle IS the main character, but if he were told, he wouldn't believe it. Kyle's story is about his struggle to be recognized as much as, mainly, Tyson. So yes, Tyson has Omega Ninth Dragon. Kyle's story is about him overcoming Omega Ninth Dragon without using uberly legendary cards. Things don't come easy to Kyle. If his goal were across a fence, Kyle would climb it. But Zywen and Tyson would have been given a key. Now, Kyle's luck IS improving - especially when Jack gave him Ultimate Element. That was a big turning point in Kyle's story.
Also, Chapter Eight's been posted. It's been done for a while - before this argument, by the way - I just hadn't gotten very far into Chapter Nine.
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Naardaas
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I saw the chapter. How's Chapter 9 shaping up?
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Aarikku
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Hard to tell. It's not even half done.
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Naardaas
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Ah. I see.
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