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Aarikku · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: A Contest

The contest is simple - pick an Archetype, that is, a group of cards with a specific category/strategy/name thingy, and make one card of support. Best one gets art'd and into the game.

Assuming that the best card is itself good.

Try not to pick something like Virtual (all of whom are my personal creations). Also, points for originality. (As in, no points for making a new Dragon)

I don't really see the logic in making a contest for the one person who frequents this site, but ah well. Let's see what you've got.

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Naardaas · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject:

Dude, how do we log in without the password?
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Aarikku · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject:

Fixed it! I now have a Public gallery. And remember - if there's two of the same card, the newer-looking one's the right one.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:49 am Post subject:

Okay. Now then, what is it you want for the card? Just the effect and such, 'cause if you don't need art I could come up with about 3 dozen cards.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:56 am Post subject:

No art necessary. If it's an Archetype I've made, I should be able to do the art for any new ones.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject:

Does that include the cards of Brian/Espeon, who has yet to be seen in this realm again?

Also, I noticed that Cobalt Wyvern and Nightmare Blood are missing from your PhotoBucket page.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject:

Let's stick to my Archetypes. If I end up manufacturing Shmod, I probably won't be using Bryan's cards.

And I know I haven't uploaded every card, but that's not really that important.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject:

Then voila, my Card Submissions. In order to make this work out better, I need to add another card to it.

(Level Three) Balloon Lion (Storm)
Category: Balloon Animal - Beast
Effect: When this card is played, Scrap up to 2 Balloon Animals from your hand and draw that many cards +1. Tap (X) to destroy this card and play (X) Balloon Animals from your Deck or Hand.
ATK/ 3000
DEF/ 2000

(Level Five) Balloon Chimera (Storm)
Category: (C) Balloon Animal - Chimera
Effect: [Balloon Dragon] + [Balloon Lion] + [Balloon Snake]
When this card is fused, return up to 4 Balloon Animals from your discard pile to your deck. +200 ATK for each Balloon Animal in your discard pile. Tap (1) to destroy this card and play up to 2 Balloon Animals from your Deck or Hand.
ATK/ 4200
DEF/ 4000
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject:

Though I do like the idea, I'm not liking the idea of ripping off Chimeratech Overdragon again.

Retry?
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject:

H'kay. This any better?
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject:

Not really. Gameplay-wise, it's still a lot like Chimeratech.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject:

Well, I dont gve up, so I'ma give it another try.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject:

Neh. It's okay. Nothing spectacular.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject:

Dude, you're giving me a headache here. I liked it a moment ago when you actually told me what you disliked. Tell me what you don't like here and I'll fix it.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject:

There's nothing wrong with it. It's just average.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject:

Then that's what's wrong with it. Average sucks. I gotta make the cards more powerful.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject:

If you do, then the entire game becomes just a mad race to summon a powerful card.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject:

Look, I'm just trying to please you. You won't make any cards I create that are just average because you expect more than that from me. But when I try to make something more stellar, you shoot down my idea. That's kinda frustrating.
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Aarikku · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject:

Making card games is hard work.
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Naardaas · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject:

A game is hard work. Kinda ironic when you think about it.

Do you still intend to actually print these cards?
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Aarikku · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:19 am Post subject:

I've mulled the idea over. I have 200-odd sheets of high-quality card paper, a nice printer and enough cards to make somewhere around three booster sets. But I've run into the following problems:

1) Unfinished cards, or just cards with bad art. Most of Pyrah's are just sketches that I poorly imposed into the nice card format. And all of Bryan's are pretty bad (which unfortunately make up about 90/350 cards). Then there's yours, which look really good compared to Bryan's, but still a little unprofessional. No offense.

2) Sizing things. Photoshop is a tricky beast when it comes to printing. Sometimes it works perfectly, and sometimes I end up with a Noble Dragon the size of an entire sheet of paper.

3) Cutting. A real card game would need cards of the exact same size. I don't know how to cut everything perfectly.

4) Packaging. Obviously I can't make booster pack wrappers, and if I use, say, envelopes, it'll look unprofessional.

5) Who's gonna buy it? I could probably sell a box to the flea market for pretty cheap, but Kingston's not a huge card game market.
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Naardaas · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject:

Aarikku · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject:

Folded and pressed foil... I never actually thought of using foil. I figured envelopes would be best, albeit - as I said - unprofessional, but at least I'd be able to print on it.

Also, your art can get a little complex. Remember your Naardaases?

I suppose I could just print off a couple decks, but it seems like such a waste to have come up with 200+ cards and only use two archetypes-worth.
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Naardaas · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject:

You disliked the colour scheme on my first one. The second one looked better. And neither of them looks anything like what you settled on.

And as for the decks, you probably have enough archetypes to make a deck for each one.

And I just thought of this; if you want I could re-art some of Brian's cards. Seems to me it's a waste to discard 90 cards on shotty artmanship. If such a word exists
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Aarikku · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject:

I dunno. Honestly, I'd rather get the reartting done by those of us with Photoshop. But Pyrah is extremely lazy when it comes to such things...

Okay. I'm all for a massive re-arting project of Bryan's cards. I'll take some too.
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Naardaas · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject:

YEE-HAW!

Just tell me which ones to do and I'll fix 'em right up!
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Aarikku · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject:

Lets move this to the art forum, actually. I'll start a new thread there.
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Naardaas · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject:

Fine by me.

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